Equal protection for the preborn has become one of the biggest and most divisive debates in the pro-life movement. Everyone agrees abortion ends the life of an innocent human being. Everyone wants to see abortion end. The disagreement is over how Christians should get there.

In this episode, Alisa sits down with pro-life apologist Scott Klusendorf for a thoughtful and friendly debate about whether pursuing equal protection legislation right now is the best path forward.

Scott argues that while equal protection is the right destination, pushing for it today could actually undermine the pro-life movement and cost lives. Alisa, who supports equal protection, challenges his position while seeking to understand the strongest case against it.

Topics include:

What equal protection actually means

Incrementalism vs. abolition

Should women ever be prosecuted for abortion?

Lessons from William Wilberforce and the abolition of slavery

Why worldview—not just politics—is at the heart of the abortion debate

Whether pursuing equal protection now is wise or premature

Next week, Ginna Cross joins the podcast to make the case for equal protection and explain why she believes it is the only consistent application of justice for the unborn.

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